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| Welcome to myself I guess. sheets
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| Hi Sheets and everyone, Member of pxf btw, looking to learn more and how to apply the ICM calulations to my playing.
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| Using the ICM applicator I return two ranges the push or call range, then the bubble range. How am I supposed to interperate or use the the bubble range? Is this range to be considered for pushing against certain types of oppentents or avoided entirely?
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Here is the explanation about the bubble range from the applicator page:
When the Compute Range button is clicked, it will return a result that has a Push or Call range and a Bubble range. The calculator computes how much equity you gain from pushing with all 169 starting hands and if that gain in equity is larger than the specified Min Edge, then that is added to the Push or Call range. If the hand's gain in equity is lower than Min Edge, but is within Bubble Edge then that hand is added to the Bubble range.
The bubble range was added because often times there are many hands that have a teeny tiny bit of equity less than the min edge. The bubble range helps to identify those hands and situations.
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| I did read that and I understand how you are getting the bubble range. What I'm asking is this range also to be considered for pushing and calling against maybe a looser opponent. What good is it to know this bubble range and any examples of how to apply it. Thanks
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In general, yes these hands should be considered. The min edge is a kind of fudge factor saying that we want to make at least 0.5% of the total prize pool by this action. This doesn't mean we absolutely want to push anything above 0.5% and never ever want to push anything below 0.5%. Instead, its saying push everything above 0.5% and acknowledge these other hands that still make a profit, but not the amount of profit we want. This is useful because you don't have to go back and change the min edge for all your calculations to see if 77 was actually a 0.4% profit and is a really close decision. It is also useful because sometimes the bubble range will have upwards of 50% of all hands in it. This is telling you that all these hands are very similar to each other in terms of equity.
Does that answer your question?
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| HI... I would like to know how you would change the min edge depending on the SNG buy-in ??? For example would you say 0.3% for lower buy-in SNG and 0.0% for high buy in SNG ?? and why ? Thanks ???
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